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I am pro-life. And I usually can tell when someone is or is not pro-life.
As with many pro-life advocates I question Planned Parenthood's motives.
As a person who believes strongly in limited government, I do not support my tax money going to Planned Parenthood.
Rick Santorum supporters are pro-life and pro-family.
They believe he will put the white house in order as far as marriage and protecting the unborn.
Here is a link to an interview that he gave recently on CNN.
I would love for this to go out to all pro-life advocates.

Within the first two minutes Santorum brags about how he supports funding for Planned Parenthood.

This is Santorum speaking. This is a video of Santorum. He is himself said he supports funding of Planned Parenthood and contraception.

http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/santorum-boasts-of-funding-planned-par...

Please, forward this to all pro-life and Rick Santorum supporters.

We need the truth to get out.

We need people to see what Santorum truly stands for.

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Fredrick Lindner, It seems as if you are agreeing with me.  Modern Islamic fundamentalism is a very small group of people compared to how many people practice Islam.  Just like some of the radicals in the Mormon religion are not in the same mainstream as Romney, some Christians are not with the mainstream of organized Christian religions.   I remember Jonestown, Heavens Gate, Branch Davidian, etc... they also have some belief about the immoral views of Satan's children and the world.  And again look at history.  So many wars and deaths have been over the Christian religion.  British Civil War was a "Christian" war, the crusades, and let us not forget the invasion of the America's.  The burning of the Koran by U.S. soldiers reminds me of so many other times in history where someone has tried to erase a culture and faith. I wish I could have been able to read the books in Alexander's library, the Mayan and Aztec records, the rest of the Dead Sea Scrolls collection, (which were hidden from Christians and non-believers so that they would be safe), the books the Nazi's burned, and even here in the U.S. removed books from the library that don't go with our current belief system. And yet, to come due to the Patriot Act, the control of what is being relayed through the World Wide Web.

And yes, this religious dogma does persist in religious groups today.  That is what freedom and liberty is all about.  We cannot force anyone to believe as we do.  We can only provide them with the option to live within God's Free Will.  God granted me Free Will and I don't want anyone playing god and removing that gift. I am not in favor (and neither is Ron Paul) for equality of outcomes.  This whole tax system robbing from the rich to give to the poor is just that.  Ron Paul views are you "Reap What You Sow Galatians" can be interpreted from 6:7-9 

Congress should stay out of religion completely.  It should be left to the local communities.  And whatever the local community decides as long it does not bring physical harm to those not able to defend themselves, I don't think it is any of my business. 

                   Thanks for the post!!!!  Are you a Ron Paul supporter?  If not, you may not quite realize it, but you do think like Ron Paul!

[Fredrick Lindner]

One religions social morality is another religions taboo.  Equality and Freedom should always be observed in a higher standing than what one religion deems as immoral.  Examples are quite in-exhaustive but we could look at modern Islamic fundamentalism as a way in which a basically moral people are viewed as Satan’s children.  In this county one hundred years ago women could not vote due to religious views of the subservience of female to male.  This religious dogma still maintains practice in secluded religious based groups in America to this day.  So in these cases the first amendment was written to so that congress would not favor any one religion over another.  Freedom and equality of rights, not equality of outcomes, therefore must always be viewed in higher standing.  I can provide some in depth review of Constitutional findings in a different forum to present some balance if you prefer.

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Randy,      Santorum: Some people have suggested that defense spending is the problem. When I was born, defense spending was 60 percent of the budget. It’s now 17 percent. If you think defense spending is the problem, then you need a remedial math class to go back to.”

In 1958, when Santorum was born, defense spending was 38 percent of the total budget: it’s now 58 percent if you count the interest on the military spending portion of total federal outlays and the costs of past wars, including veterans’ benefits and medical care.

Who needs the remedial math class?  I don't think it is us.  I think it is the man who is twisting words to achieve a certain war goal.

It is more than one subject that Santorum is back tracking on.  If it were one. Well maybe!

But, it seems to be more than just one subject.

I am pro-life for all peoples of this earth.  I will never advocate the loss of life as collateral damage.

Gingrich and Santorum are pushing the statements that we need to send not just our troops but more weapons to the middle east.  This can only mean more death.  And that death includes the death of our economy.  Morally it is wrong to fight over seas, economically it is wrong to support wars over seas, and the Constitutionality of the wars over seas is currently wrong.  There are three good strikes why we don't need to be involved in the wars in the middle east.  My main reason is because I am pro-life and I think funding or sending our troops over is morally wrong.

Again read the Creature of Jekyll Island and a couple of Ron Paul books.  Suggest to me a political or economical book that Santorum has written and I will go out and buy it and read it. 

[Randy B Corporon]

I don't agree with Fredrick that discussing social issues mars the image of Constitutional Conservatives.  That strikes me as more of Libertarian view.  Conservatives understand and agree with John Adams when he said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

However, I do agree with Frederick that the inevitable economic downfall of our great nation is of primary (not exclusive) concern.  So, to address "reform's" attack on Santorum's fiscal conservatism, I offer an excellent analysis of Santorum's vote for Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit, from The American Spectator:http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/20/rick-santorums-part-d-vote....

I recently started to wonder how seriously one should take the comments of someone called "reformer?"  How do we assess the credibility, bias or reliability of someone unwilling or afraid to provide their own name?

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Fredrick Lindner, you are so correct.  Social issues, especially if a candidate does not vote accordingly should be made known.  People seem to vote and follow a candidate according to emotion.  Follow the candidate that is consistent, very informed and is willing to always stand up for his principles.  Follow the candidate that always votes according to those principals.  No excuse should be accepted.

[Fredrick Lindner]

A cautionary note:  This election will be delivered to Obama if Social Issues become the focus of any debate either here at the Tea Party or nationally.  I have tried to put the context of these topics in perspective in looking at the 5 to 10 year outlook for the future of our nation.  At current spending projections and debt the possibility of a total system collapse similar to Greece is understood.  The majority of all social arguments are not relevant to the gravity of this impending situation.  Also any social issues that are debated will mar the image of a Constitutional Conservative with the American public and hand the election to Obama for 4 more years.

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I go to both democrat and republican events.  The one thing that the democrats demand is bi-partisan votes.  I do not agree with that.  I do not want some one willing to wheel and deal.  I want someone who will stand by their convictions.  Ron Paul has voted the exact same way for his whole political career.  Ron Paul has never bargained or been bought to vote any way except for what he believes in.  No other candidate can say that. You have to admit that this is a good thing.  Ron Paul has always voted NO under any and all circumstances to funding for Planned Parenthood.  (Planned Parenthood gets funding in more ways than just Title 10.)

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Time will tell.  I am guessing that Santorum will be gone by mid-March.  Gingrich is so arrogant that he will stay in longer.  Just a quick side note.  Did you know that neither Gingrich nor Santorum received enough signatures in that state they reside in?  They are not on their own ballot.  Ron Paul and Romney got enough signatures.  The people where Santorum and Gingrich live could not even support either candidate.  I am waiting to see how Georgia will turn out. Gingrich claims that is his home turf. 

We will wait and see.

[Randy B Corporon]

The second video is Tom Woods arguing for Ron Paul, and comparing the records and beliefs of Santorum and Paul.  Happily, the polls already show how that comparison plays out.  There are reasons in support of and against any vote, including many that Santorum made as a senator.  For example, he did vote for Medicare Part D (prescription benefits for seniors).  He didn't support the concept, but his president and his party had the votes to pass it.  In order to earn his vote, Santorum got an agreement to add health savings accounts to the bill.  Health savings accounts, for those that have them or know of them, are the best thing to happen to consumers of US health care since the federal government and the IRS started controlling the market.  I don't know if Ron Paul can beat President Obama.  He scares too many people, he is very old, and he jabbers when he gets excited or agitated.  I have no doubt that Gingrich, Santorum and Romney all can.  So, I am looking for the biggest contrast with Obama from the strongest conservative with the least baggage.  Time will tell.

[Randy B Corporon]

Title 10 (or, Title X if you like Roman Numerals) is family planning, including Planned Parenthood.  Thanks for posting the link.  I hope everyone looks at it.