I happened to catch a glimpse of a Beck show today.
He was talking about our forefathers and terrorists. He also mentioned Muslims.
I can not say whether he accused early terrorists to be Muslims.
But, the implications were clearly their.
I did try to see if I could find the show on the net. (I could not bring myself to actually listen to the show.)
I could not find it.
Most "tea partyers" are very much pro-forefathers. I am wondering if the Beck crowd is trying to sway people against Muslims by indicating that we have been fighting Muslims for centuries.
The Barbary Coast was about "piracy" and paying a "toll" for passage through their area. It had nothing to do with religion.
We currently do the same thing when ships enter our harbors or go through canals (i.e. Panama), etc.... with merchandise.
Is our "Christian" government no different than the governments (kingdoms) of the past?
Are all governments creating "piracy" through taxes, fee, fines, penalties, etc....
Here is what I did find on the net:
"I mean, if you're going to mess with us, we're going to pound you," Beck said. "Thomas Jefferson created the Marines for the Islamic pirates that were happening, right?" http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/feb/03/glen...
Jefferson vs the Muslims
"But now the curious reader may choose from a freshet of writing on the subject. Added to my own shelf in the recent past have been The Barbary Wars: American Independence in the Atlantic World
, by Frank Lambert (2005); Jefferson’s War: America’s First War on Terror 1801–1805
, by Joseph Wheelan (2003); To the Shores of Tripoli: The Birth of the U.S. Navy and Marines
, by A. B. C. Whipple (1991, republished 2001); and Victory in Tripoli: How America’s War with the Barbary Pirates Established the U.S. Navy and Shaped a Nation
, by Joshua E. London (2005). Most recently, in his new general history, Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East, 1776 to the Present
, the Israeli scholar Michael Oren opens with a long chapter on the Barbary conflict. As some of the subtitles—and some of the dates of publication—make plain, this new interest is largely occasioned by America’s latest round of confrontation in the Middle East, or the Arab sphere or Muslim world, if you prefer those expressions."
"One of the historians of the Barbary conflict, Frank Lambert, argues that the imperative of free trade drove America much more than did any quarrel with Islam or “tyranny,” let alone “terrorism.” He resists any comparison with today’s tormenting confrontations. “The Barbary Wars were primarily about trade, not theology,” he writes. “Rather than being holy wars, they were an extension of America’s War of Independence.”" http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_2_urbanities-thomas_jefferson.html
GLENN: And I had no idea. It didn’t even occur to me. I know the story of the pirates that were, you know, marauding and taking control of the seas and Thomas Jefferson had to go after the pirates. And I know the story about Tripoli kind of. I didn’t realize, it didn’t click to me that it was Islamic extremists that Thomas Jefferson was going after.
THOR: And that’s exactly it. What’s interesting is that our Navy, when we went to war with Great Britain in the Revolutionary War, we were protected by the Brits in the war. We were protected by the French in the war was over. And then once the war was over, the French said, okay, America, glad we could help out, good luck, you need to pay us back for everything we did for you. And we were alone on the high seas. And the Muslims of North Africa were the most horrific Barbarist pirates out there and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with the Muslim ambassador to Tripoli in London to say — they wanted to know, hey, we’re not making war on you; why are you just killing our ships and taking our goods and everything? And the Muslim ambassador — now, this is back in, like, 1784 — said, well, it’s written in our Qur’an that all nations which don’t acknowledge the prophet Mohammed are sinners and we’ve got the right and it’s our duty to plunder and enslave you and that any of our guys who die doing it go to paradise. It’s exactly — and congress said we need to smack these guys down, we cannot show weakness. And congress said, you know what, maybe we just pay them off, let’s not go — let’s not cause any trouble, let’s just pay them off the way the French and everybody else are doing right now.
GLENN: Just, it’s amazing that the 1700s were dealing with the same thing and you saw the way Thomas Jefferson dealt with it.